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Oct 12, 2009 -- Solar shingles, smart appliances help you save green

A variety of energy-efficient developments are coming to help Americans live smarter and cheaper in their homes.

The New York Times reports that there's a new technology where solar panels can be built right into the very shingles of your roof.

This can be a great workaround for people who want solar energy but live in restrictive covenant communities that prohibit traditional solar panels. The newly developed solar shingles come in terracotta and the traditional asphalt look so they fool the eye from the street.

The Wall Street Journal, meanwhile, has a story about new smart appliances. A smart appliance is any that would adjust when it runs based on when you can get the cheapest power rate. Both GE and Whirlpool have plans to crank out smart water heaters and clothes dryers next year.

Variable rate pricing for energy is already prominent in the Western states and eventually will be a standard practice across the country.

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  • smart appliances help you save green
    smart home appliances help you save time
  • solar
    I would love to rebuild a 'green' home but like most people I can't afford too. I do use CFL's, buy Energy Star products, and use blinds in the summer. Until solar becomes truly affordable and mainstay then most people won't do it.
  • Green not affordable yet
    Anything solar is good being the sun is never going away, if one day the sun fails to rise, going green and saving money will be your last concern. The solar shingles are great with a few exceptions. They're god-awful expensive even with state, federal, and local tax incentives, and most are only warrantied for 5 years, but should last 20. You must receive an ample amount of sun on the roof to benefit, most do, and in areas where it snows you must clear your roof. Overall, if you can afford to install the benefits far outweigh the expenses. Don't forget that you're not just paying for the solar shingles and labor, you need a power panel, inverter and charge controller, or similar wiring and routing technology to route this energy in. If you don't have 10-15k for a partial roof or 20-25k for a full roof, you're out of luck. If you can actually throw this expense into your mortgage then that would be the best route being a solar roof should up your home value maybe 10%, too bad taxes, both sales and property, come along with that.

    I'm all for these newer and greener technologies, but I'm against corporate welfare. I do not want my government paying these giants, many of whom that have shipped good-paying US jobs to Mexico and overseas, I do not want corporations to receive one penny from our taxes in order to sell their products to people who can ALREADY afford them. It funny how this government hands out money to the people who need it the least. Go Green, with your own money.
  • total cost not trivial
    Solar shingles typically are photovoltaic, they produce dc power, rather than heating a fluid for heat exchange, like you might find in a water heating solar panel.
    Because they produce dc power, and your US household runs on ac power, you need an inverter to change the dc power to ac power, or you need to equip your house with appliances that use dc power. Furthermore, since you won't be getting much output from the shingles during cloudy days and none at all at night, you will need a system to store the power you get at peak times for use when you need it. Typically, that means batteries. Photovoltaic technology and battery technology have both come a long way recently, but the break-even point is still a consideration if you plan to convert to save money. There is also the large initial outlay of capital required, capital that could be producing income otherwise. I would suggest that one seek professional help to determine whether a cost savings would be realized. Certainly don't count on a sales rep of a system - his goal is to convince you so he makes a sale. For those interested in living "off the grid," these systems provide a way to do that.
    It seems to be consensus among solar enthusiasts that the most likely breakthrough to come about to make these systems viable to the masses would be in the field of power storage (batteries.)
    As a bit of an aside, if you were to consider a photovoltaic system, consider also if your area is suitable for a windmill or two. You would already have the storage and conversion to ac power from the photovoltaic system, that wouldn't need to be duplicated.
    _aleph_
  • Solar
    Buzz, where are your facts? If you do not agree you don't have to get ugly.
  • appliances
    they also have a washer that is developed for use in Asia/Europe that utilizes high pressured air to clean the clothes in lieu of water. This means no needing a dryer. That seems much more plausible that a peak power sensitive machine.
  • don't carry checks
    Clark, thanks for the advice on not carrying checks. I now follow that advice.
  • Whole Foods
    Greenwich, Connecticut, Whole Foods stopped taking checks a couple of years ago. Also stopped giving plastic bags some time ago. Whole Foods gives you 10 cents credit for each bag you use. And, Clark, I want to tell you that our Whole Foods is so much cheaper than Stop & Shop and Shaw's -- on everything I buy. Meat, fruit, vegetables, dairy, you name it.
  • Clark's Green Brain
    If Clark thinks something is green, he will weewee his pants with excitement. From the curly mercury light bulbs to ethanol, his brain is overpowered by emotion and he is incapable of a true economic analysis of the product. Sad that such a person should be presented as an advocate of the consumer. He is no such thing. Fact is, solar panels may work well in sunny California, but for most of the rest of the country, the payback will be never. Same with much of the other "green" stuff that Clark gets so excited about. Sad.
  • Solar Panels Have Always Gotten a Bad Rap?
    I had a friend/co-worker in the late 1970's, who installed solar panels on her new home in Folsom California.

    Her neighbors did everything they could to get her to take them down. She won her battles, and a few years later, almost all the neighbors in her hood, had also installed solar panels.

    What makes this so funny is; the solar panels actually increased the value of the homes--and my friends husband was an electrian!
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