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Oct 01, 2009 -- Recorded calls at the center of new Bank of America debacle

Bank of America's mortgage lending unit has been involved in what may be criminal activity, erasing recorded phone calls that they had with members of Congress and both Democrat and Republican officials who got sweetheart deals through Countrywide.

The recorded phone calls were somehow magically erased when the tapes were subpoenaed. BOA is being tight-lipped, only releasing PR fluff statements about the whole episode.

But there's another angle to this story. BOA was apparently recording every phone call ever with every customer regarding Countrywide mortgages.

Meanwhile, callers have told Clark that they've tried to record BOA and been promptly shut down by the customer service representative on the other end of the line.

It's always wise to try to take a defensive position and record your side of the conversation. Technology makes it so easy these days. If you live in what's called a one-party permission state, you don't even have to tell the other person on the line that you're recording. If, however, you live in a two-party permission, you're simply required to say, "You're on a recorded line," before proceeding with the call. Determine what kind of state you live in.

Let's face it, companies are not recording you to serve you better or for "quality purposes." They're looking for something they can use against you if they need to. And did you know that some companies now pull a George Orwell and record your call even when they put you on hold?!

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What others are saying

  • declare bankruptcy Mr. H.You'll save your house but ruin your credit ratings.
  • comment
    Why state comments you won't even see or answer?
  • hanes
    i had been a customer of countrywide for 0ver 12 years as my mortgage was sold tp them. I never had a problem' Recently I lost my job I have tried everyway possible to get them to help me . Ithought maybe they could add 2 months on my loan or anything to help as i only have 6 yrs left. They said they would remove the late pay but that hasnt happened .they turned my info over to some shisters who lied about how they could help. Can anyone tell me a reliable company?????
  • kickthemallout.org
    "erasing recorded phone calls that they had with members of Congress and both Democrat and Republican officials who got sweetheart deals through Countrywide."

    What an incriminating statement and more proof that the banks and our politicians are all in it together. Let's fire congress!
  • Recording
    When I call and the recording says "...this call may be recorded to improve customer service..." I take that as permission to record the call (to improve customer service of course).
  • Worked for me
    We had a billing problem with GA Power in which they put the bill into our name a few weeks earlier than we had requested. We went round and round with them and finally they checked their recording like we requested. In short, they credited us the money they say we owed and charged it to the prior occupants of the house.
  • This has been going on for decades.
    We had a relative who worked for the phone company. She said that all large corporations recorded incoming calls to use against the caller if they needed to later.
    So, we were always careful what noises were going on around us while "on hold" etc. televisions off, kids not making noise it the back ground etc. Plus, we knew we could use this feature to our advantage if needed, by making fake rehearsed statements to someone else in the room "while we were on hold".

    Here were some of our favorites:

    1. “Lucky for us, we have an attorney in the family, so if they don’t fix this, he’ll represent us for free.”

    2. “So, the department of Justice is meeting with us tomorrow and all we have to do is bring in our paperwork.”


    3. I am so glad we have a CPA in the family, and keep excellent records of everything including pictures.”


    4. This last one works if you just happen to have a famous last name. Do a little name dropping, while on hold say: “Maybe I should contact cousin Barack” Fill in the blank with who ever is famous (usually political) name in the blank in the town, city, state or national name bank.


    We also went though a period where one of our last names was that of another famous person in town. On many occasions people would ask us (this also include customer service reps on the phone) if we were related to famous “last name person”.

    “Why yes” we would reply, saying they were our “cousins”.
  • recording personal conversations
    Does anyone know where I can find a similar list for personal conversations? (not using a phone)
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