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Apr 30, 2009 -- An $80,000 salary to not work for a year?!

The average American family survives on somewhere between $40,000 and $50,000 depending on what source you believe. Compare that to the kind of salaries paid at large law firms. Skadden Arps, for example, routinely pays its lawyers more than $100,000.

So what does a company like Skadden Arps do when business slows down sufficiently enough for them to consider furloughs? According to CNNMoney.com, they give their lawyers a one-year paid sabbatical with $80,000 of compensation!

The lawyers are expected to go do something useful, like public defender work, yet they're not duty bound to do so. They could simply travel the world for a year if they're so inclined.

Several months ago, Clark posed a poll question to listeners about whether, given the choice, they'd prefer to take a 10% pay cut and preserve everyone's job at work, or maintain their current salary with the understanding that a 10% reduction in staff will be necessary.

The wage stickiness factor holds that an employer's smartest move in difficult times is to reduce headcount and preserve the wages of those who remain. It's long been thought that lowering the wages of the survivors would be demeaning to worker morale.

But that assumption hasn't always proven true in this recession. In fact, our poll showed that most people wanted the salary freeze so that no one else would get axed. The Skadden Arps scenario, however, is like a hybrid of both options.

Nice work if you can get it!

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  • retort to the lawyer fee commentary
    Lawyers fees are one hundred percent justified. They spend alot of time money and sweat in preparation for becoming lawyers. Then they go through a year of document review and general boredom or so until they begin to handle clients independently. If you lodge a complaint against them as a client or sue them for malpractice, regardless of the validity of the case, it is a stain on thier record for forever, and can cause them to lose their career. Every document they peruse, every signature, every contract they create has the potential to end their career. IF that happens, they are pretty much screwed for life, because they are normally disbarred and can no longer practice. And like any other highly compensated employee, they get paid 20 to 60 an hour and bring over 300 an hour in to the company. if you were an employee that was that profitable, you would receive commensurate compensation also. The fees they charge are, I repeat, are an industry standard. This is not from some sort of collusion as has been implied, but rather from the heavy regulation and tracking of the profession by both it's members and regulators. I would answer in closing that you commented that you never felt you got your 300 an hour out of the lawyer. Then why did you hire them? oh yeah, I forgot, because they provide a service you are incapable of rendering to yourself, and without thier judgment, or advice, you could be liable for alot more than your 300 an hour. Supply and demand my friend, supply and demand.
  • Too Many Lawyers
    There simply are too many Lawyers in the world finding all the gray areas of the law and exploiting them. Most people in the USA do NOT make $80,000 a year and remember that is a CUT IN PAY For these lawyers. There are many out there with college degrees who cannot find work. The job market stinks and if these lawyers think we are concerned about them being laid off, they need to get a life!
  • reduced hours and reduced pay
    My company reduced pay by @15% for most people (the avg is higher for upper mgmt due to their incentive pay being tied to performance). That didn't make us hit the magical number so now business units are required to take anywhere from 4 to 26 weeks of rolling layoffs. This is after we laid of 25,000 people. Won't somebody please buy a heavy-duty tractor?
  • reduced hours/pay bad idea!
    I work as a manufacturer's rep and I go into many plany on a daily basis. The ones that have reduced hours/pay (especially pay) have serious morale issues. The ones that have eliminated the below average employees they probably have thought about eliminated in the past but didn't have a good excuse are doing as much work or more work with fewer people. The ones that stay feel a sense of importance and the owners get more work for less money. Is this positive? Not sure but the reality in my area (midwest) is that reducing work force is typically the best way, sorry for disagreeing?!?!

    - Todd Charske
  • reduced salary
    Well I reduced my per hr rates by more than half as now the used to be paid Trades in the building industry are taking the work that I always did. They work because they are hungry and work for less thus I had to drop my per hour. They used to tell people "We're to busy to bother with a small job. Now they are taking whatever they can land and I used to work 5-6 days a week trying to keep up. Now it is more like 1-2 days a month. Big hammer then, small hammer know.
    Mark
  • Agreeing with Melinda, Jack and Jeffrey
    All of their comments are what I would have said, but they said it better.
    SA knows what they are doing and doesn't want to lose great minds and more than likely these attys WILL DO exactly as SA suggests, they will do some pro bono and warn the firm lots of good will. It's a smart move in the lawyer community but I wouldn't expect Clark to get it.
  • Smart Idea
    Many good lawyers that work on large firms do get paid a significant amount of money. The attorney's I know work a ton of hours and rarely get any real vacation. They definately earn their pay. Paying a good attorney $80,000 to take a year off (which is likely 1/3-1/4 of their regular pay), may be a smart way to ensure that they do not loose some good lawyers while saving a lot of money. This is much better than adding another person onto the unemployment list and loosing their house.
  • Lawyers Fees
    Where I live all laywers mysteriously charge the same outrageous amount for their work. It is price fixing at its worst but because most of our legislators are lawyers they just look the other way. I have yet to find a lawyer I felt was worth the $300 an hour I paid them. Shouldn't we feel like we got our money's worth after writing the check?
  • Cheap shot Clark
    What's with the class envy B.S. Clark? Yeah the law firm pays big bucks to avoid layoffs -- what business is it of yours? IIRC Clark Howard sold his travel agency for "big bucks" and now he plays around dispensing advice on a radio show. Is that a real job? Does he really deserve all that wealth?

    This kind of envy is corrosive and leads to the public having a negative attitude towards any successful business. We should laud and celebrate wealth creation, not denigrate it.
  • Sound like Capitalism to me
    If a private company (Skadden Arps) wants to pay attorneys $80,000 a year to do Volunteer work or what ever, that is fine with me. If it works for them, great! If it pisses you off then go to law school and go after one of these jobs...
  • No work, all play
    So what does a company like Skadden Arps do when business slows down sufficiently enough for them to consider furloughs? According to CNNMoney.com, they give their lawyers a one-year paid sabbatical with $80,000 of compensation!
    Must be nice!
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