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Apr 09, 2009 -- Credit card balances take a historic tumble

CLARKONOMICS: Americans reduced their credit card debt by 10% during the month of February, according to new figures.

The Federal Reserve has been tracking typical credit card balances for 41 years. During that time, the reduction seen in February has only happened once before in the past 4 decades!

People are tired of being held over a barrel by the big banks that operate credit cards. If you owe money, you're putting yourself in danger of some bank jacking up your interest rate overnight.

We're getting calls from people who have had their rate jump from 8% to 30% while they were making timely payments!

Meanwhile, a new piece of legislation going into place next summer will ban such retroactive increases on existing balances you carry. So the cynical "banksters" have responded to that threat by trying to rush in the increases right now.

Another danger people are facing is that their credit line may be reduced or closed in the blink of an eye. That's why Clark recommends that you open additional lines of credit as a form of insurance against possible closures of your existing cards.

When you consider that 30% of a credit score is determined by the amount of available credit that you're using, you can see the importance of the consumer champ's advice. A low credit score could ultimately cost you a job or bring higher insurance rates.

So keep paying down your debt, but also be strategic about how you handle credit. You don't want to get in a situation where you're put in a penalty box even though you consistently make timely payments.

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  • Closed Credit Card
    I closed my account Last statement I received stated balance $606.18 so I mailed them a check for $606.18 to day I receive a statement with a balance of $2.99 so I call Capital One who the account was with ask them to remove the 2.99 charge they tell me they cannot remove a charge on a closed account imagine that I even spoke to a supervisor who said he could not remove it on a closed account so if I do not pay it they will continue to let the interest on this amount build up and report it to the credit agencies and there is nothing I can do about it.
  • American Express Just Screwed Me Too
    I have had a AmEx account since 1985. During the spending spree days I ran it to the limit but never missed a payment. To get my financial house in order I sold my house (at a loss) but took my remaining equity and paid off ALL my debt including my AmEx account. How do they repay me? I go on-line to see that the payment has been credited and in big red letters I see Account Canceled. So I call and the fellow already beats me to the punch about why I am calling telling me my debt ratio is too high blah blah blah ... I explain that I have never missed a payment, sold my house, and paid off all my debt and he says well call us back "if this is true" and send us supporting documentation and we "will reevaluate" your account. What chutzpah! I don't want a AmEx that bad though I realize closing a 20+ year account will give my credit score a hit. I kept my temper in check but I wanted to tell this cockroach company what they could do with their reevaluation and their plastic.
  • Pay off large chunks to get ahead...and get screwed!
    I recently paid $1,000 off on a credit card with only a $2,500 line of credit,small to some but large to me, thinking I was doing an awesome thing by improving my credit score by knocking my debt in half and making my debt to credit ratio look better. Only to have Chase bank (formerly WAMU with no troubles prior to this) put the online payment that cleared the same day through my bank on hold for 2 weeks since they "weren't sure if funds were available" , 2 weeks would mean it would be available come the next billing cycle, which they did say they have a right to do after I asked but no notice of hold was ever received. If the payment cleared online and was an automatic payment why would there be a hold? Other cards through chase were never put on hold until this "large" payment was made. I was patient and waited my 2 weeks. The day before the billing cycle renewed they released the hold as promised and the very next morning dropped my credit line by the same amount I paid them $1,000!!!! SO instead of helping my debt to credit ratio they just screwed me even MORE! So once again i'm kissing the limit. I guess I will just have to pound sand and suck it up so I know the next time. But SERIOUSLY! Any ideas?? I have a theory that the credit card companies feel the consumer as a threat when making "larger" payments because they can't make all the intrest money off your 30% APR if you pay them off quick, so in turn they drop your credit line in hopes you'll go "over the limit" or not notice new limit they give in order to make more money by tacking on fee after fee.
  • Closing Accounts
    I recently received letters from my 3 credit card companies. (Chase, Capital One, another Chase) Same story as most everyone else on this site, I've never been late on a payment and so on. I paid off my balances and last week I called each one of them and closed my accounts. Demanded that it be stated "Closed by consumer"! We'll see if that happens as they said they would. One guy even had the gall to argue with me not to close my account and that I shouldn't listen to what they are saying on the news about there company, it's not true. The others offered me low, fixed rates for 9 months. Well, closing these account may affect my credit score but, that can always be rebuilt. I just won't let them close the accounts on me. Nor will I pay an annual fee or their stupid 17.49% interest rate. I have a credit card with my Credit Union at a fixed 9.99% rate. The point I wanted to drive home to those companies is that I refuse to do business with shady companies. By the way, paying electronically does not always mean your payment will get there on time. One company wanted my bank to send them a paper check, which took 10 days from the time I paid electronically until the time it was applied to my account. Luckily, I pay them within hours of the bill hitting my mail box or I could have very well have been late with my bill.
  • Credit Card Rate Increase Results of Fight!
    I was having a problem when Chase took over my WaMu credit card they raised my interest rate from 11.99% to 21.99%, with a $6000 limit and a balance near my limit I was SHOCKED! I fought with them since January when my finance charge was almost doubled and they wanted me to pay $180 a month minimum payment. Well, finally, it's been resolved! After several phone calls, emails, etc, etc.
    I was listening to Howard one day and he mentioned occ.gov. They monitor the country's bigger banks. I went on their website and filed a complaint against Chase. Mind you, I have been paying over the minimum pymt and ALWAYS was on time, so I didn't see any good reason for the raise in interest. They stated first that my credit score, blah blah and then it was because I went over my limit, that was due to the increase in the finance charge!
    I rec'd a phone call from the executive offices of Chase. The woman in turn listened to what I had to say. Agreed to reduce my interest rate back to it's original 11.99%, if I closed my account (no problem), and also...get this....agreed to CREDIT my account with the difference in the finance charge since January 2009! I am now continuing to pay off my credit card with only a late payment fee because I informed them that since they refused to work with me, I couldn't afford to pay them and I had other more important bills to pay!
    I felt like I was being cheated considering WaMu gave me a chance to improve my credit score by first, giving me a credit card with a 14.99% interest rate, after good standing, they increased my limit and upon request they reviewed my account again and reduced my interest rate to 11.99%. I had a fantastic payment history with them.
    Mind you Chase turned me down when I applied for one of their credit cards.
    Just want everyone to know, there is hope, but you have to be patient and consistant. DON'T GIVE UP!!
  • "managing their credit responsibly"???
    So, 10-15 cards, with $100,000 credit limit, and $40,000 in credit card debt is now perceived as "managing credit responsibly?"

    I'm sorry - you mess with hornets often enough, you're gonna get stung! Simple as that. You can cry about it if you want, but it was inevitable.
  • Correction to my previous post
    line 5 should of read: debt isn't always the result of consumer spending
  • Banks
    Walter, I'm sorry to hear of your situation. I know I've probably been posting too much about this, but, this was exactly my point in my posts in resposne to DB. There are a lot of good people out there that where "managing" their credit resposnibily. Things happen in life, different things to different people and debt is always the result of "consumer spending" and living in a big house you can't afford. In hindsight, of course we all would of been better off without accumulating credit card debt. But, like the old saying"thats closing the barn door after all the horses have run out". We can't go back and undo what has been charged, but, we (our government) allow the banks to go back and "retro actively" increase interest rates on existing debt. People like DB can post all they want they we got what we deserved and the likes, but whats wrong is wrong. Just because it wasn't illegal (which it should of been) for the banks to be able to do this, it shouldn't be okay for them to do this now. If it isn't stopped, a very large percentage of consumers will have their credit scores ruin and be put in a position of never being able to pay their way out of debt. I'm not advocating that anyone not pay what they owe, but, for people to agree with what the banks are doing on the grounds that "it was right there in the fine print" and you should of known better is morally reprehensible.
  • Our story...
    We have 10-15 credit cards, around $100,000 available credit in total (cool huh? I can buy a house anytime ;o) ), perfect FISCO score above 750 and great APR almost on all cards. We owe $40,000.(Wonder why? Our baby was born, wife lost a job). We've been a good customers, never been late on payments. Since January 2009: 2 accounts are closed for non use, on two other accounts they decreased credit limit for 30%, and on all of them they suddenly increased APR. Discover - the best card ever we had, 3.99% APR gone up to 10.99% this month. Bank of America, just got letter from them today going up from 8.99% to 18.99%. Capital One: increased 7.99% to around 17%. Amex: 15% to 25%. All this %'s only on purchases, cash advances are much higher. All of them had similar letters: due to economic situation, blah blah blah we are increasing rates and changing terms and conditions. We were OK with low APR's, it wasn't bad, always paid twice a minimum payments, but now I feel that we are in the huge rat trap!
  • DB, Here's my point, I'm not defending the use or Credit Cards or going into to debt. I agree with you that it's a bad financial choice. HOWEVER, regardless of the "fine print", allowing the banks to charge whatever interest they want with absolutely no ceiling -"retroactively" on existing balances is just asking for another financial banking crisis. I'm not advocating this, but, if the banks make it impossible for consumers to pay them back and ruin their credit score in the process it will impact the entire economy. Some credit (short term is good). There is over 2 trillion dollars outstanding in Credit card debt. What is going to happen to the economy if the banks make it impossible to pay it back?

    My point is that we need to stop runnning up debt, but at the same time a program has to be in place to paydown what has already been charged. What good is it going to do to have 50% of the population default on their debt. We'll all pay for it. As yo stated it's difficult enough to get out from what you have already charged without the banks "compounding" the problem.

    I disagree with your statement that "it's still the banks money" Only in the legal sense, not moral. The financial industry (banks) have to bear some of the resposibility for this. It wasn't just caused by consumer overspending.

    To answer you question about foreseeing: How can anyone have know that their house would devalue 30-40%, they would lose a good paying job with no new jobs to be found, 401k losing 40-50%. The "financial" experts didn't know it was comming. I'm not saying that this is a reason to run up debt, but a lot of people thought they were being financially responisible. Not everyone with credit card debt, went on vacation and bought big screeen TV or lives in a house that they can't afford. You state that "people need to take responsibility" for their own actions. I don't think anyone thats posted has said they aren't going to take resposibility. The government is involved in all aspects of consumer products, you can't by a toaster that isn't UL listed, but, they don't care about what the banks get away with?? Come on, the only reason for that is that they have been paid off by the banking lobby.
  • What do you have to "foresee coming?" When you rack up $5,000, $10,000, $20,000 in credit card debt, buying what you obviously cannot afford to pay for, you ought to expect that it's going to come back and bite you.

    I know I did, as I speak from experience - I had over $30,000 in credit card debt just two years ago. Finally I came to my senses, went crazy on a budget, cut out all kinds of expenses (cable, phone services, raisted insurance deductibles, eating out, etc etc etc), increased my income as much as possible (sold stuff, including my own plasma, took on extra jobs), and snowballed the hell out of those debts. Now we're down under $4,000, and will be out of debt (besides mortgage) in three months (we also knocked out about $13,000 in car loan debt at the same time). Has it been hard? Yes. Have I learned my lesson? Yes. Was it my own fault? Of course it was.

    People need to take responsibility for their own actions. No one forced me to use those cards. It was my choice. As for the mice type - the smaller the print, the more closely you ought to read it, I'd say. Have you ever bought a house? Now there's some paperwork to read - and you sure better read it! To enter into any kind of contract involving money without reading and understanding all the fine print is just dumb. Are you that dumb?

    Regardless of any bail-out money received by the banks (thank your president for that move), it was still their money that we borrowed. To Jason, who suggested we all just stop paying - that's ludicrous. Suck it up, tough it out, and own up to your own fiscal irresponsibility. Don't pass the blame - or the buck - on to anyone else. Learn a lesson and move on.
  • Wish I was that smart
    You know what I have found funny is that a lot of people that are fortunate enough (or in their mind, smart enough) not to have CC balances, all seem to post saying that "it's what we agreed" to when we accepted the card (that the rates could change at any time) Well, as Clark says, who can read all that "mice type". I just received a small little booklet from my CC company and if I didn't do a triple take, would of thought it was "junk mail". I had to put in under a magnifying glass just to read it. Well, it told me that due to "economic conditions" that they had to increase my interest rate to 17.6%

    These people are all crooks and anyone that defends them and their practices on the grounds that we got what we deserve sort of attitude, well I just don't understand where they are coming from?????? Must be nice to have been that smart to have fore seen all this coming.
  • Discover
    Just got nice note saying that due to expenses, blah, blah, they're raising the rate. If I don't like it I can cancel and pay them off. Well, I don't exactly have the cash to do that now...?
  • Their Money?
    How is it "their money" when they would all be bankrupt and out of business if it wasn't for our tax money bailing them out. Don't you think that because of this one little fact, they they should make some concessions to consumers with regards to interest rates and the likes?
  • In Reply To DB Cooper
    In theory your correct. Don't use the cards, but for the banks to hide behind the fact they they are within their "legal" rights to charge whatever they want because of the "fine print" is not the issue. I don't have a problem with banks charging whatever interest they want going forward, to me the problem is this "retroactive" interest rate jacking. To Claim that the banks are within their rights because it isn't "illegal" and consumers are getting what they deserve is a "ridiculas" point to make. The banks are well on their way to creating the next great financial crisis. There is well over 2 Trillion dollars in unsecured credit card debt. If they make it impossible for consumers to pay them back, consumers will just stop paying. I'm tired of hearing these self rightous comments that consumers are "morally" responsible to pay the banks back. I agree in theory and to a certain point. The banks, wall street, congress and the Federal Reserve have caused this mess and now it's only the consumers who have any moral obligations. Come on DB All this madness has to stop somewhere, where will that be when banks charge 100% interest rates on credit card debt. That's B.S. about it's what consumer's agreeded to. The banks have already gotten our tax money in the form of a bailout, there should be some compremise where they can agree to a ceiling on how high interest rates can go. If Congress and the Senate weren't on the banker's payroll to begin with, this would of stopped a long time ago. Please don't keep moralizing about the consumers resposbility to pay the banks bank.
  • credit card
    is it ok to return your credit card and just make payment arrangement to pay it off?
  • It's THEIR money, not ours
    Jason & Howard - You do realize, I hope, that you're talking about BORROWED money - their money, not yours. You borrowed it, with the agreement to pay it back. If you read the fine print of your loan (you DO read the fine print when you take out a loan, don't you?) I'm sure you'll find that anything the card company has done to change the terms of the loan was agreed upon by you when you so happily decided to spend money that wasn't yours.

    The only real way to stop this "madness" is to spend wisely, and only spend what you have, what you can afford. Either pay off your credit card bill each month (thus negating any interest charge) or don't use cards at all. It's really that simple!
  • Banks & Congress
    If you really want to know how the banks are tied to the Federal Reserve and Congress, check out "The Creature From Jekyl Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve" by G. Edward Griffin. Althought written more than 12 years ago, it's still right "on the money".
  • criminal cards, I mean credit cards
    Why is it that the banks can raise their fees, interest rates and change the terms of the agreement with thirty days notice? And why does it take a year to create legislation that protects consumers? Why do we take it? I say stop paying your credit cards. I mean everyone stop paying. I am guessing that means about one hundred million people stop paying. And then tell your representatives that they are going to force banks to write off all of our debt and that our credit scores will not be affected. I know it sounds crazy but that is real power. I do not believe the world will end if we band together and stop the abuse. I would even be happy if we could write off our interest on our taxes.
  • Rate increases.
    I had a 10% rate with my Bank's Visa card that is now a variable rate tied to the Prime. It is now 15% and will probably do nothing but rise since the prime is at historic lows. I have made all my payments on time, and have been a good customer. My banks Initials are BA and I refer to them as "Big Nasty".
    They can pretty much choose any index they wish for the prime, and increase rates at will. I have a feeling that fixed rate credit cards are goig to disappear. These people are pirates in Business suits.
  • Jamie ~ Even at 16% interest, there is no rewards program that is worth carrying a balance. Do the math!

    For the rest of you, if you carry a balance you are at their mercy, and always will be. If you pay off your balance every month, interest rate is a non-factor.
  • Barclay's Bank Airtran Visa
    I had a great history with these people...or so I thought. My balance looked a little higher than I thought it should be, and when my wife showed me the April statement, I found out why. My interest rate had been raised to 27.24%, up from an already high 16%. I was reluctantly okay with the original rate, as the Airtran Visa has a fantastic rewards program. When I called them a few minutes ago, they informed me that my rate had been raised effective February because, get this, I paid my January payment 49 minutes late on-line (7:49pm). I am angry and disgusted, and it goes without saying that I will be looking for another card to transfer my balance to. Let this be a lesson to all: If you pay your payment 49 minutes late, watch your statement like a hawk!
  • WTF Discover
    Had Discover Card for over 25 years.

    Never late, ever. Carrying a balance that is 20% of the limit.
    Credit report at all 3 bureaus is perfect.

    Got a letter today Discover rate going from 10.9% to 15.4%.

    Did I miss something??
  • Credit Card Balances
    Excellent point JD Adams I say we all support our local credit union. They offer better rates and they are much easier to deal with and guess what they didn't need a loan from the government due to crazy home lending practices
  • Bank/credit card abuse
    Lets face it the 3 major credit bureaus are getting a maximum amount of revenue from the banks and credit card companies and are in bed at the FRAUD level with same! The conspire to drop scores!
  • Credit Cards
    You know what I really have found troubling about how much influence "Banks" have in our lives, is that I had recently been applying for jobs, every company requested a "background" or "credit check" (which is fine). I have (or should I say "had")what would of been considered a very high FICO Score. However, with the criminal activity that Banks are now allowed to get away with, I am concerned that a lot of people with previously good credit history will now be negatively impacted by what the banks are getting away with. If your FICO score drops because banks have reduced your credit limits through no fault of your own, this will have a direct impact on your potential ability to get a new job. Things (thanks to the banks and Financial Industry) are difficult enough, now they are allowed to effect our ability to change jobs??? If someone had 5 credit cards all with a $20,000.00 limit, and never used or charged $1.00 on them, if the banks deceided to drop your credit limit to $5,000.00 per card, your FICO score would drop (through no fault of your own) like the Dow Jones.

    I'm not in favor of the government getting involved with every aspect of our lives, but, the bank are creating havoc in our lives and we need to put a stop to it. Congress isn't goint to do anything about it because the Banking Lobby, has paid them off not to. The new Credit Card laws that go into affect next year is to little to late. Why did Congress give them so much time to inact the new laws? So, they could have enough time to raise all our credit rates to 35%. The banks are going to put themselves out of business with this policy and futher help sink the economy. But, why so they care, Congress will be there to bail out their buddies.
  • credit cards
    I agree. One of our credit cards closed our account, one cut the limit from $13,500 to $1,000, and the other raised the interest rate from 12% to 23%. We have never been late paying! We are trying not to use credit cards at all so the banks will make NO money from us since they won't be reasonable. I am hoping they will fail. They truly deserve it. They get million dollar bonuses while we can't even travel if it requires plane tickets on a $1,000 limit.
  • Banks are at it again!
    I suspect that the true cause of our economic slowdown is that people are retiring debt instead of continuing their usual spending orgy. Banks are pissed: accounts are being paid off too quickly, cutting profits. For the rest who can't afford to do this, rates are jacked up.

    I got fed up with Citibank playing games with my interest rate so I paid off a $6k VISA account last month. Their response? Offer me a wonderful 6-month 5.99% interest rate! Sounded great, until I read the mice-type. To get this, I had to agree to a 29.99% interest rate after the teaser period. HUH?

    Worse, they've again changed the terms of our agreement. They have eliminated my grace period unless I pay the account in full for two consecutive billing periods.

    I'm fed up with these clowns and I may fire them later this month. I plan to obtain another credit card account with my own Credit Union instead. Banks have long-since left a nasty taste in my mouth, and I'm finished with all of them.

    To anyone who still maintains a credit card balance: cut it up, pay it off and fire them. We vote with our dollars, and I don't think we need Congress to force banks to clean up their act. Cut their profits in half, then watch most go under, and trust me, the rest will fall into line overnight. How's THAT for consumer empowerment!
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