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Mar 26, 2009 -- Fixing the broken healthcare system

The back-breaking costs of healthcare can be a real frustration for entrepreneurs and other small business people.

Insurers have traditionally engaged in the risk management business by charging massive premiums and excluding people with certain conditions. In essence, they only make coverage available to the healthy.

Nearly 50 million people don't have coverage because of access or affordability issues.

Back in 2000, Clark had heated arguments with the industry's chief lobbyist Karen Ignagni on the air. During an off-air conversation, he later told her that if the industry doesn't fix what's broke, we're going to wind up with socialized medicine.

Here we are 9 years later and the Obama administration is proposing a government insurance plan for anybody at any age that does not have coverage.

Is it any wonder the insurers are now saying they would consider phasing out high premiums for people with medical problems? Duh.

We have this silly system where you buy subsidized healthcare from your insurer. That was great when you worked for one employer your entire life, but the typical employee today works for 15 or 20 companies on average through the years.

Isn't it somewhat idiotic to get coverage through your employer when your employer changes so often?

Healthcare should be bought just like auto insurance or homeowner's insurance. For those who can't afford it, Clark believes that vouchers are perfectly reasonable.

He's also long advocated that coverage be standardized. In the consumer champ's ideal world, there would be just 12 health plans offered to everyone: 3 HMOs, 3 PPOs, 3 HSAs and 3 of the traditional 80/20 splits. Every insurer would have to sell identical plans. That way you could switch to another insurer's HMO plan No. 2 if your insurer's HMO plan No. 2 is too costly.

But no matter whether we go the socialized medicine route or we keep it privatized, we still have a nagging problem. We spend roughly twice what any other wealthy industrial nation does per capita.

Our system heavily compensates transactional-based medicine -- such as doing a procedure or surgery -- instead of the actual act of diagnosing. The only insurer that's an exception to the rule here is Kaiser Permanente.

The result of our system's set up is that we frightfully over-treat. Yet we have a shorter lifespan to show for it than other Western nations.

So far Clark hasn't heard anyone talking about making healthcare truly affordable. And the only way to get there is to end the transaction-based model.

In fact, the penny-pincher would be happy to serve as health care "emperor" for our nation and set up a free enterprise medical system to stave off socialism!

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  • In the middle works.
    From Art Kellermann @ Emory: A single payer system for health care is not going to fly in the United States. That's too radical an idea for us. We need something in the middle that combines public and private payers. Free enterprise will kill way too many people. We have to have a hybrid.
  • Access and Affordabilty!
    In a sentinel study “REDEFINING HEALTH CARE IN AMERICA: QUANTIFYING UNIVERSAL ACCESS AND A SINGLE-PAYER FINANCIAL SYSTEM” (Sizemore, R., C., 2008) quantifiably analyzed, measured, and contrasted the advantages and disadvantages of universal access and a single, simplified-payer financial system.
    The problem: The United States (U.S.) has one of the best health-care systems in the world, although over 61,000,000 residents live without affordable access to health and preventive care because they lack medical insurance or have insufficient insurance coverage. The complexity of the current medical insurance-based financial payment system in the U.S. is driven by Federal, state, public and private insurance conglomerates that design and market a complexity of health insurance products and programs with thousands of plans, options, modifications, exclusions, limitations and escalating costs.
    The opportunity: In the referenced study, the advantages and disadvantages of universal access and a single-payer financial system are compared and contrasted with health-care systems that economically compete with the United States (Australia, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom). The analysis of the 14 industrialized nations (included the U.S.) reported reduced infant mortality rates during the first year of life, increased life expectancy at age 65 and reductions in total health-care expenditures as a percentage of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) within the 13 universal access and a single-payer financial systems when measured against the United States.
    Barlett & Steele (2004) additionally proposed a path advancing health-care reform on a national level within the U.S. reported, there is a need for the U.S. to take a fresh approach, a new organization that is independent and free from politics. That focuses with laser-like precision on what needs to be done to further the health interests of everyone in a fair manner, knowing what must be done to advance the health interests of everyone in the U.S. in an equitable manner. Essentially, advocating a tax-financed, Federal Reserve-like system assuring unrestricted access to health and preventive care, strict cost controls, increased practitioner (physician and nurse) incomes that are determined to be too low, addressing geographic (rural) variations, and curtailing over-diagnosis and over-treatment practices (Barlett, D. L., & Steele, J. B. (2004). Critical condition: How health care in America became big business-and bad medicine. New York: Doubleday, p. 239).
    The Bottom-line: There are merits to universal access and a simplified payer financial system that need to be addressed, studied, analyzed, quantified, and efficiently and effectively adapted within the best health-care system in the world, the U.S., a system that is NOT currently achieving or deserving of such an accolade.

    An opportunity for the “penny-pincher” to serve as health care "emperor" for our nation along with other freedom seeking professionals to set up a free enterprise medical system to stave off socialism, while extending access to an affordable (financially simplified) health and PREVENTIVE CARE system for all U.S. citizenry!
  • Insurance
    I have worked my but off for 5 years now so that I could graduate as a RN and get a great job that would give my family and I great health insurance. We have non because my husband is selfemployed and the cost to purchase was greater than our house payment monthly. That was the bare minimum. We also have two boys to think of. Well, to get to the point, I graduated this past May and started my job taking care of people (which I love) and I received my benefits package so that I could pick and choose what I wanted. Guess what. They pay none of it, the hospital I am working for. It will cost me a fortune every pay check. No cheaper than what we looked at before AND the deductibles will never allow them to have to pay for anything. It is a ripoff. I am scared of something major happening but we just cant afford this. So I am starting a health savings. This is ridiculous. Something has to give.
  • Health Care
    Clark's plan is fine with me with this one caveat: I want to be rewarded for my healthy lifestyle choices. If you're eating yourself to death (fast-food, fast-food, more fast-food) sitting on your butt all day, avoiding annual checkups, ignoring your Doctor's recommendations to exercise more, eat less red meat, cut down on the high caloric carbos, etc., etc., why should I have to subsidize your poor health choices when they finally catch up to you? I live in Ca. where auto insurance is not cheap UNLESS you opt for a higher deductible, and are rewarded by your insurer (in my case State Farm) for a clean driving record. The same 'personal responsibility' test should be applied to health care. Let's incentivise annual check-ups, and healthy lifestyles!

    Finally, Clark, you're preaching to the choir here. Testify on Capital Hill if you can. Take your message straight to the Obama administration. I believe you will have a more receptive audience than with prior administrations.
  • Health Care Reform
    Every option should be on the table. It is not time to play politics. We are in a health care crisis and throwing about charged, biased terms like "socialism" or "corporate greed" doesn't help.
  • Clark's Plan
    Clark - PLEASE put your plan in writing and start promoting it as an alternative. At least it would be something other than the Obama plan and the health insurance alternatives. And it would do a lot to promote discussion.
  • Health Care
    I have been in health care for almost 40 years and it have seen a steady decline in all aspects. The budget cuts to health care are idiotic! I have no idea what the solution might be, but what we have now....ain't it! Thank you Clark for your diligence!
  • Mar 26, 2009 -- Fixing the broken healthcare system
    YOU GO CLARK!!!!!!
  • Health Care Is Not a Right
    Any solution to the health care problem should recognize the fact that nobody has a "right" to health care, medicine, insurance, etc., any more than they have a right to any other commodity. Doctors and drug companies are not your slaves.

    Computers are affordable precisely because the industry is relatively unregulated and free of government interference. Yet nobody claims a right to a computer. You shop around, find what's best for you, and pay for it.

    There is absolutely no reason why health care need be any different. High deductible insurance for catastrophes, tax-free medical savings accounts for everything else. Get the government out of the picture.
  • Clark is right!
    Clark is correct, health insurance should be like auto insurance... The 'oil changes' should not be covered; but, we should be able to compare prices + insist on full upfront and comparitive (apples to apples) disclsoure of realisitic retail pricing from everyone in the health services industry from Doctors, hospitals, pharmacies, labs, etc. I just got a bill for $500 retail that my insurance contract was able to 're-price' to $36. This shows how ridiculous the so called retail rates are and how bad we are getting hosed, especially if you do not have insurance. Give us the info and tools to compare. Dentists compete, so do eye doctors and oil change places where no insurance is involved!
    Tort reform is also very necessary.
  • dt, you are right on! Thank you!
  • Universal Healthcare - Socialized Medicine??
    "We spend twice what other wealthy industrialized nations spend on healthcare.
    RIGHT - THEY HAVE socialized medicine.
    We have Socialized Libraries, Socialized Fire Protection, Socialized Police Protection, Socialized Roads..why not socialized medicine?
    We live 3 years shorter than Canadians, Englanders, French and even Cubans! Does that make you feel better?
    It is too high a price, to me.
    Watch the movie SICKO about health care in Canada, Great Britain, and France.

    See what they really say about their health service. No Service is a Myth created by Insurance Companies and politicians with their hand out.

    Health insurance employs over 2500 lobbyist to work 535 elected to the Senate and Congress. WHY??
    Do you really look forward to a life that is 3 years shorter??
    Socialized medical care is cheaper for citizens of Canada, Great Britain and France than insurance care for us who can afford it. We let children die, young adults die and all sorts of people die from lack of care. Can we really claim to be good Christians and turn our head away from the fact that too many people die or suffer from lack of health care?

    If you watch the movie SICKO and after viewing you can still say no to universal healthcare, you will at least be making an informed decision.
    Right now you may be against universal health because of fear, or not having known a child or adult who suffered long and hard without healthcare.

    But do remember you have Socialized Fire Protection, Socialized Police Protection, Socialized Libraries, Socialized Roads...and the list goes on.
  • Canada is no Model
    The comment made about our needing what Canada has, is a little misinformed. I lived in Canada for 17 years. Hospitals are woefully understaffed. Specialized treatment is often only available hundreds of miles away. Even simple procedures, with little risk are put off till they become critical because there are not enough surgeons to go around. I could go on, but am so thankful that the quality of health care and access are something we can celebrate here in the US.
  • Nationalizing health care
    I have a relative who was head of a family practice clinic in a mid-western state. A year or two ago, he told me that, from his point of view, private health insurance and Medicare were about equally a pain in the a$$. He added that Medicare was probably slightly better from the average patient's perspective.

    If private insurance can't do better than the government (on average), why shouldn't we just let the government do it? They have been doing Medicare long enough to have a track record and, while it is far from perfect, it hasn't been a disaster either. I have also heard that another "socialized medicine" agency, the Veterans Administration provides both better and more cost-efficient care than Medicare so it is possible to improve.

    Funding such a program will cause a big debate and will produce some unhappy people no matter how it is done. I think that, for the sake of simplicity (and consequently lower administrative costs), the funding should be done the same way as Social Security and Medicare -- but I'd be open to other options. Employers should be taken out of the loop as their administrative costs are just an extra burden on the system. They could put that money into higher wages or other benefits instead.

    There might have to be some caps on what is covered to contain costs (i.e. medications or procedures for the purpose of "upgrading" one's psyche).
    Private health insurance could be available as a supplement for those who want these benefits or other extraordinary care.

    There will be lots of details to work out and citizens will have to watch the politicians very carefully to see that lobbyists don't either make it into a hopeless mess or a different profit center, but the time has come to tell this industry that they have had their chance and blew it.

    (PS I like Medical Student's views on tort reform/frivolous lawsuits. While there is undoubtably abuse by plaintiffs, large pharmaceutical firms have also been less than ethical in pushing their products and they need to have the possibility of fearsome awards to keep them in line.)
  • Health insurance
    national health insurance is NOT government run health care. it simply spreads health cost and risk among everyone and then develops a payment plan. that way the insurance companies aren't 'competing' by cherry picking only healthy customers. A national health plan Paying for health care instead of procedures is an important idea.
  • Health Care
    Clark would be perfect.
  • Health care in America
    We don't need socialized medicine. We need a national health insurance plan. It's the insurance companies that have ruined our health system!
  • Let's have a Canadian-style system. Please quit referring to it as "socialized" medicine, because it's not. It's a single-payer, universal health care system. It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than down here. I know because I've lived both here and in Canada. There is no Canadian I know who would trade the Canadian system for what Americans put up with down here. Imagine being able to make life decisions (opening your own business, changing jobs, etc.) without having to worry about health insurance. There are people in the US who are going bankrupt due to medical costs. This system is barbaric and uncivilized.
  • Government
    I went to the Driver's License place today. Please don't let the same people manage my health care!
  • Health Insurance
    Clark, if every insurer is selling the exact same plans, where is the competition factor? Wouldn't the lack of diversification of products reduce competition and raise rates?
  • health care
    Few complain about all the new medicines and procedures that are making all of us live longer. I have the perfect plan to reduce medical costs. Stop all research and even roll back procedures to 10 years ago. Thus if you needed a pacemaker or bypass, then JUST LET THEM DIE. This would also cut down in SS, medicare, long term care, etc. In order to pay for this research that might cost a few million, or 20 cents a pill, then they re-coop much of this by high costs ($5 per pill) in this country, and perhaps 50 cents per pill in 3rd world countries where their marketing model can help pay for this research. You can also get much of these same medicines under different names at a lower cost from Petco or animal supplies.
  • No health insurance
    I am very much against socialized medicine. But....being self-employed, and now over 50, our health insurance became prohibitive, so now we are uninsured. My husband has diabetes so is now virtually uninsurable.

    One of my mantras has always been that people are willing to pay $20,000, $30,000 or more for a car, but feel their own health is not as valuable? I really wouldn't mind making payments if we ever needed any major medical care, but why can't we pay the same amount the insurance companies pay? It seems like we, the private payer, have to make up for the difference the gov't or private insurance pays by paying 2-10 x what the hospitals or doctors are compensated by them. Medical care would not be overwhelming if it costs us the same as the insurance companies.

    The system is broken, but getting the gov't involved will only make it worse, IMHO.
  • Health Insurance/Health care
    If we actualy had a HONEST privite sector, it would be best. However.... hostpitals, doctors, legal drug pushers and insurance companies seem to be possesed by uncontrolable greed. We may NEED to regulate, like it became necessary with utility companies and such before. Not because we want to but because we may HAVE TO! Then it may be better for a while.... but whatever the government fixes usually ends up even worse than before?
  • Health care
    I am for Universal Health Care. I pay out of pocket $8,000 per year for single health care.
    Why not have everyone pay Medicare to the tune of 7% regardless of income. Then have Medicare handle the bills. Companies would like only paying their 7% and nothing more. All would benefit and companies would no longer have to offer health care.

    It is time we do not have so many who do not have or cannot have reasonable health care.
  • Employer Subsidized Healthcare
    What about those of us who don't jump from one job to another? If I stay with my employer for a long time, why should I be penalized?
  • Health Care
    We already have socialized medicine really. We pay more for insurance for those who dont. Insurance companies charge an unreasonable amount and make an unreasonable profit. No rewards for wellness. We take 2x the amount of pills as any country on earth but are ranked 37th in health. Why too many pills and not enough responsibility for ones own health. The FDA spends too much time chasing alternative treatments instead of pills. Most studies by Big Pharma are manipulated to the positive. For instance the study for Celebrex was written by an advertising agency prior to the study being done. The study data was then massaged into matching the perfect advertising scenario. We pay for advertising in our drugs. We are basically THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD that allows drug ads.
  • Health Insurance/Health care
    We already have "Socialized" Health care. The Government Employees, The "Professional" Welfare Reciepiant, the Low Income, even Ilegal's in some areas all have that "Socialized" health care.....That THE REST OF US are paying for. And it's better that what we get. It evidently must work!
    Since ole Joe Tax Payer is footing the bill....JUST LET US IN ON IT TOO!!!
  • health insurance/healthcare
    i feel that would should have some kind of
    health care. There are some kind of conditions that can,t be prevented or predicted for example I have glaucoma for over 8 years, if insurance companies did,t have the say on how much a person could go to the doctor for exams maybe it could have been caught sooner and cost me less in care.
    I have son who is in early 40s who just
    found how he has a rare health condition
    which if the hospitals and insurance companies could have caught over 20 years ago. I also have a son who is insulin pump depended and in order to keep is health upkeep we have kept him up my husband insurance, so because he is on the insurance he has medicare with the other with a $5000 deductible. If everyone is wondering how about A National SAles TAx at 1.5% to 2% where everyone would be payingD!!!
  • Clark's insurance
    I'd like to know what kind of insurance Clark provides for his employees.
  • to Jan
    Do we really want a politician to tell us we can't have a treatment that would save our life because it costs too much? Right now your ability to pay and how good your insurance is determines whether you get the treatment - is that so much better?
  • Against award caps
    This might surprise many but as a medical student, I am actually against putting a cap on awards. Patients need recourse if their doctor commits malpractice and putting a cap on the awards would prevent that. It's about assigning responsibility for the outcome. If the doctor did everything right and the patient dies or is permanently injured, then the doctor is not responsible. If the doctor is negligent, then the doctor is responsible for the outcome and the financial consequences and the cases goes to court. The reality is that patients win approximately 3% of malpractice cases that go to court, with going to court being the key words. What really needs to happen, is to put a system in place to determine if medical malpractice cases are frivolous in a MEDICAL sense as opposed to the legal definition of a frivolous case. As it is, all you need is one unscrupulous doctor (who was probably sued into oblivion in the first place), to write a note saying that the case is worthy. Any physician, no matter the specialty is deemed an expert witness, even if it means a dermatologist testifying in a brain surgery case! Doctors need to band together and create a sensible system for giving expert witness testimony. For example, only other surgeons should be able testify on surgery cases. Doctors that haven't practiced in awhile should not be allowed to testify since their knowledge and skills may be getting obsolete. Lawyers shouldn't be able to pay exorbitant amounts of money to seedy doctors willing to say anything for money. There should be a cap on payment for testimony. etc, etc...

    Legal reform would go a long way, but it's the doctors that need to initiate change and see it through. There aren't many lawyers willing to do it for us, and why should they!?
  • Health insurance fix
    I firmly believe that our nation needs serious legal reform. Doctors would not order every test under the sun if they were not worried about getting sued massive amounts everytime something did not go perfect. There is a reason it is called practicing medicine. Unfortunately it is not perfect. The other unfortunate thing is that we are lead by lawyers in this country. Not saying the legal profession is all bad. It isnt' but putting caps on awards would be a nice start. I would imagine if we had legal reform in this area, health costs would go down as would the costs of medicines which have to factor in so much money for law suits, they are afraid of putting more new drugs on the market.
  • Denying care based on cost / Price-fixing
    While there are a few highly highly publicized cases of people being denied care on the basis of cost, is that really a widespread issue anywhere? A lot of US healthcare dollars are wasted on tests, referrals, procedures etc to cover the doctor's and hospital's rear end in case of lawsuits. Losing a medmal lawsuit is devastating, but just being sued is financially and emotionally draining, no matter how "frivolous" the case.

    Also, I like Clark's plan, but doesn't it provide conditions ripe for price-fixing? What kind of mechanisms could be used to prevent ripping off the customers/patients?
  • Socialized Medicine
    Right now I can't think of one thing the govenment is managing well. Do we really want a politician to tell us we can't have a treatment that would save our life because it costs too much?
  • German diet healthy?
    Having lived in Germany, their diet is anything but healthy!
  • Health
    Having lived in France and Germany for 3 years, better diet makes all the difference. We here in the US are fat slobs.
  • broken health system
    Every civilized ccountry has so called socialized medicine, which takes care of their citizens @ half price of USA. Their citizens live longer, and infant mortality is lower. We can not put out of work big pharma lobby.
  • Mar 26, 2009 -- Fixing the broken healthcare system
    First, excellent topic and show as always Clark! I do not consider myself to be a liberal or conservative but perhaps it is good that the Obama Administration is pushing for a comprehensive health insurance plan for everyone, because as you (Clark) said, it is now forcing the insurance czars to reconsider allowing pre-existing conditions as part of their approval process. What good would a so-called "tax cut" do, when one can be shelling out up to $750 to $1,000 a month (especially if they have a serious health condition). I would definitely support Standardized Health Systems that are fair, affordable, and by "ability to pay.' I am sick and tired of hearing about everyone crying about "socialized" medicine that has not come up with any solutions such as you, Clark have here. The insurance companies are really practicing their own "socialism" by dictating what little they compensate the doctors to the point that many just want to shutter their offices. And, the patient is increasingly forced to select a medical professional based on what/if an insurance carrier will cover, if they are lucky enough to have Health Insurance. I also strongly agree with you Clark, that we should be looking at more emphasis on alternative treatments that also work, not limited to the self-interests of the FDA and their lobbyists. At the same time, we also have to monitor the abuses of people that go to the emergency room to treat a head cold. Then, there is the issue of malpractice insurance and the excessive costs that the medical professionals have to absorb, not to mention that many probably are in serious debt from their medical education/schooling. So, to close, I am glad that Obama is pushing through Socialized Medicine for the reasons you, Clark have stated. If preventative measures to stay healthy don't work, and we become unemployed - we are screwed! I hope you continue to talk this up Clark, and to guide us on to group to get through to our politicians who will never have to worry about health care!
  • until everyone has to buy insurance under law or be excluded from getting treatment we will never solve any problems. because under the current system, other than group plans only the sick want to buy coverage.

    even the poor can afford to pay something. make everyone pay something into the health insurance pool based on gross income (without any deductions or credits)on a sliding scale. that way the government will subsidize the poor. and eliminate this idiotic law that says we have to open the doors of hospitals and have the government pay for any and all health costs for illegals. Virtually every other country in the world does this. Why not us?
    And reform tort laws, simplify the plans as clark suggests and use identical computerized coding across all plans.
  • Health Insurance Solution
    If the government made section 125 plans simpler to use and then mandated that only qualified insurance plans could be used -- qualified meaning portability, so the employee could take the plan with him to his next job, and that the insurance company provide a schedule of costs related to the number of people enrolled regardless of employer -- we could allow everyone to belong to a group plan and change jobs as often as necessary. the insurance companies would have an incentive to be competitive and build the plan with the greatest participation. Each employee would look at a new job prospect with a keener eye on the amount available to pay his health insurance through their section 120 plan. As a consultant to small business people for many years I found that very few were familiar with section 120 plans and did not realize the benefits to both themselves and their employees from this vehicle so there would be an educational process involved and perhaps even an enhancement in tax benefits for employers who opt to use the plan.
  • FREE HEALTH CARE
    "The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." Margeret Thatcher
  • @Paul
    I agree people should be responsible but cancer hits those that are healthy, young, and are taking care of themselves. It does not discriminate. I can attest as I just went to my friends funeral last year after she died of cancer at the old age of 38 and my brother-in-law (32 years old) who is starting chemo and radiation treatment next week for a second occurrence brain tumor. And he is finishing up his last year of med school at the same time. Both of these people have med bills over 250k. So, although it is convenient to place the cost of health care on those that abuse the system, please also consider the young that are getting very deadly, very expensive diseases that kill them.
  • clark for emperor of our health care system
    let's make it happen. I vote for Clark reorganizing the health care mess before O'Bama socializes us totally.
  • vouchers
    "For those who can't afford it, Clark believes that vouchers are perfectly reasonable."
    The problem with this, IMO, is how to define "those who can't afford it". If I buy a brand new SUV, buy a house that busts my buget, take the family to Disney World each summer and THEN discover I can't afford health care, do I get a voucher?
  • Overuse of Healthcare
    Our costs for healthcare is so high because 1) we fail to take responsibility for our actions. 2) we expect the highest caliber of service for all issues. In europe people do not visit the doctor for every minor issue. They also do not take High blood pressure medication, Cholesterol medication and insulin instead of eating properly. I have seen people overuse MRIs PET and CT Scans, or other expensive services when other alternatives will do. I have lived under european healthcare, and while adequate, it depends on people being responsible for their actions. Many in the United States seak a pill to solve their problems rather than addressing the factors or issues that are causing the problem.
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