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Feb 09, 2009 -- Refinance help for the self-employed and those with bad credit

Fannie Mae -- which controls nearly half of the mortgages in the country -- will launch a new program in April to help those who are self-employed or have bad credit take advantage of the refinance craze.

The Refi Plus program will waive the normal credit score requirement for a refinance; it will have reduced documentation standards for proof of income; and it will allow for computer-based appraisals, which tend to inflate the value of a home and make it easier to qualify for a refinance.

More people stand to be affected by these upcoming changes than the entire number of people who have already gotten their refis!

However, Refi Plus will ultimately lead to higher defaults and more foreclosures; it is, after all, a lessening of standards. But apparently the "experts" aren't overly concerned. They're holding out for the hope that the program will actually allow people who couldn't make their mortgage every month to do so.

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  • Refi Plus & Refinance Relief
    Actually this program only waives Mortgage Insurance and Allow a slightly higher debt to income on Existing Loans held by the Agencies. There is no reduced documentation provision for this program. The appraisals are also complete appraisals from HVCC appraiser.
    This program is designed for higher credit score home owners who are simply lower the rate to make it more afforable at little or no risk to the lender.
  • SCAMMED by my mortgage company
    I am at the end of my rope and don't even know how we got here. We bought our dream house about two years ago. We had about 80,000 saved when we purchased the house we knew it needed alot of work as it is 110 years old our mortgage broker convinced us to put less money down and have PMI insurance on our loan which is about 500.00 a month but once we did all of the work (ended up costing 60,000.00) we would be able to get the PMI taken off. Well that was last july/August when the work was completed I spoke with the mortgage company every step of the way and then when the work was done in August they told me that the Goverment took them over and that it couldn't be done anymore but the only option that they could do was to give me a loan modification which I agreed to as they made is sound so simple well they strung me along for a year and kept telling me not to worry and that everything would be fine once it was done I gave them everything they asked for NEVER EVER missed a payment and now they tell me that I was not approved because the pay stubs I sent them were out dated from the time it took for them to get from one department to the other . Was it too much for them to pick up a phone and ask for updated paystubs? Instead I get a letter stating thzat if I dont come up with 12,000 (which is the difference over the past year with interest) they are forclosing on my house in 9 days. What do I do I heard about a non-profit that helps people in my situation but I dont know the name of it and I am at my wits end. I have been on the phone with several companies and attorneys and there is nothing they can do to help me.
  • Refi
    Two questions
    1. Why do self employed hard working people get put in the same category as people with poor credit?
    2. I have good credit, savings and three homes, also self employed and trying to refinance. How can I access this program?
  • refi
    Just laid off. good credit and job leads. Should I contact mort.co. and ask for lower interest rate/refi.?
  • Refi Program
    The refi program is a great help to those who want to save on their monthly mortgage. Also, in some cases fannie mae will waive the appraisal for a $75.00 fee. Why not refinance at these low rates and top that you get to skip a few monthly payments until your new payment began. It doesn't matter about your credit score you just might not get the lowest rate, but the rate will be great. You do have to be current on your mortgage though. Also, if you have a second mortgage you still have to subbordinate the second mortgage with its current lender. Its a pretty great option. I am in the mortgage industry and I know about this program.
  • Refi Plus Program
    We are looking to refi and our lender said that this program was for people like us who did the right thing, put 20% down and have paid their mortgage in a timely manner. And now, because the rates are so low, we want to refi, but there is a good chance that the value of our home has decreased, which we cause us to have to pay P&I. Refi Plus eliminates the P&I for people in our situation as long as the loan is backed by Fannie. You had to have put down 20% on the original loan to qualify. Also, this program just went into effect on 5/1 which is why no one had heard of it earlier.
  • Refi Plus program
    My husband recently took a 20% pay cut and we purchased our house 2 years ago on not so great cedit. Our interest rate is 8.6% 30 year fixed on our home is we have called Citi Fin. Morg. and they
    said we have to be way behind on our morgage before they could help us. We have 4 kids and we are currently living off of grill cheese and beans so that we do not get behind. Could we qualify for the Refi Plus program? It would save us 500-600 a mortgage payment. Please help us. We have Citi 10 times and they just give us the run around. They had one person that told us just not to try to pay the mortgage and let it go into forclosure. She said they would be able to help us then. Please respond asap. We need someone that can help us.
  • HELP....Bad credit since we were laid off...Catch 22
    Hi-Hubby and I are collecting S.S. now and just about pays the mortgage..We started an online biz www.orange-dogs.com and some money is coming in from that...but would love to refi our mortgage through Litton Loan Servicing..denied once, but now that our income is increasing they are checking it...submitted the fanny and freddie (not thru freddie) and we pay (bumped it up recently) 9.75% interest on a $200,000 mortgage...HURTS>.Someone help please...where do we go? Jan
  • Refi Plus
    I have contacted Fannie Mae with failed results. They don't seem to know anything about the Refi Plus coming available in April. Can you please direct me and all the others posting to your site as to a lending institutiont that can help us take advantage of the Refi Plus? Thanks so much. Love your show. Kimberly
  • FANNIE MAE REFI PLUS
    I have spoken to Fannie Mae and they do not have a program as such CALLED REFI PLUS? Clark where exactly are you verifying this program information? As a mortgage professional the only program that could help a self employed individual who does not income qualify would be a LOAN MODIFICATION workout with current lender- Currently income and credit score and property value requirements apply to self employed individuals.

    I spoke with Fannie Mae Corp underwriter and their is no such program called REFI Plus nor is their any knowledge of this program due in April- Also we checked efanniemae.com out and their is no program as such as being forthcoming in April.

    Please address this

    Troy Flynt @ CSI, Century Services, Inc.
  • refinance
    "By Lender" said it all... This is a way to save the good paper to off-set all that bad paper, from the dead beats. Not a way to consume more bad paper. By "paper," I'm referring to your Mortgage. It's just a contract that's up for sale by the highest bidder. It's just money for these people. Keep the good credit mortgages, away with the bad. Do you honestly believe Fannie Mae would want to risk more money??? If so, you will probably like the Obama 2009 stimulas package. Good stuff. RIGHT!!!
  • You have no clue by Lender on 2/15
    It would really be helpful to know if this person is correct. Are the loans only going to be available to those already held by fanniemae? I did go to efanniemae.com and it sounds like he's right but i'm no expert. Clark, please respond.
  • refi
    I am self employed in the construction buissness, i have been playing by the rules and didnt sign a terrible morgatge,but through no fault of my own and the doings of nothing but greedy people,this industry has crashed and im finding it hard to make my payment,if i could lower it by 200 to 400 dollars a month it would save me and my family, but does this program work if you are upside down on your house? if anyone has an answer i would love to hear it
  • You have No Clue!!
    The goal of the program is to allow self - employed borrowers who make timely payments on their mortgage to refinance to a lower rate.

    This program is only for loans already owned by Fannie Mae so they are not throwing more good money after bad because this program is only for loans that are performing well. They must be on time for the last 12 months and seasoned for at least 12 months. FHA and VA already have this type of program and it is about time the conforming lenders followed suit.

    Most self-employed borrowers make enough money to cover their bills however they write off everything they can including things that W-2 wage earners cannot. The self-employed borrowers problem is, based on current underwriting guidelines, they cannot income qualify. Unlike those who work for someone who pays part of their payroll taxes, self - employed borrowers are qualified on their "Net Income". "Net Income" is a self-employed borrowers Gross Earnings minus all their expense write-offs. Those who work for someone else are allowed to qualify based on their Gross Earnings.

    While I do feel that Self-Employed individuals write off expenses they should not be allowed to, they are discriminated against because of their type of employment. Those who have stable employment(have been self-employed for at least two years and can prove it with a license or some other third party verification), have good credit (show ability to live up to their financial obligations) should be allowed to refinance with limited documentation. This goes for those who work for someone else and receive a W-2 every year.

    I do not agree with Clark that this will lead to more defaults. This is not a lessening of standards, this is the common sense way of refinancing borrowers who are discriminated against because of their employment type. Their are many "A" borrowers who can prove their income but are in default because of lost employment. Should they be denied the oppurtunity to refinance because of the possibility they may be laid off during an economic downturn?

    It is amazing how many people are "outraged" if they think someone is getting a free ride unless the shoe is on the other foot. Clark as usual is wrong when it comes to mortgage lending. He should stick to what he knows best which is fereting out scams and railing against the banks. Those "Clark Disciples" who follow him like lemmings should do your own research and get a clue. Go to www.efanniemae.com, Single Family, Mortgage Products, Streamlined Refinance Mortgages to see qulaification guidelines.

    As someone who deals with these "Good" people everyday, it is great to see them get a break for once.
  • whacked
    So glad that tax cheats have more opportunities to lie & steal. Another great plan from Fannie ...

    And who gets to pay for this, exactly? Hum.
  • at 4.5 % count me in
    Being self-employeed I want to make money but I dont want to show Ive made money(Legally of course) This would be a great opportunity for self-employyed people like my self who pay their bills to get a great rate on a home mortgage.
  • Its time to look at what is most important in life
    I am a California resident and, for the 27 years that I've lived here I've learned about the high need to "keep up with the Jones's". Many of us were already one paycheck from being booted out of our homes before this housing crash due to our poor savings and spending habits. I agree that we just need to think of alternatives and let this housing crisis do its expected damage. My prayers go to families who did not have time to formualte a plan B and also for those families who are current on thier mortgage for the time being though are hanging on a thread to maintain a postive account with thier bills. (I'm also one of them).
  • wrong
    Being self employed is not a sin. We have equity, we have good equity and we have never been late on our mortgage payment in 30 years. And yet we were declined to refinance because of this issue alone. We might lose our home because of lies and bad management from the mortgage companies. This very issue is forcing good payers out of their homes. What a shame. We have no intention of defaulting on our mortgage but we can not refinance. This is the first time that I pray and hope that the government will help the middle class. We need our homes too!
  • What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!`
    So we are going to loan more good money on bad loans. When will we stop loaning money to people that cant pay their bills. We need to not make shaddy loans, that is what got us here to begine with.
  • that is how this mess began. Are they crazy?????
  • Fannie Mae Refi Plus
    I hope that this program will help "the people". The TARP money from OCT08 and now this Democrat spending bill going to the House needs to help "the people". I'm not confident it will make to us! On another note with this mortgage meltdown. I have not heard one politician or talk show host elude to this angle: Many banks got a bailout from the previous TARP handout. That was tax payer money. Mine and Yours!! Most banks gladly took that money. Now those same banks (IndyMac) being one of them, will not talk to someone who is current but would wish to get out from under a bad loan (ARM). A loan modification if you will. Yes, I made a mistake! Why is it that the banks won't entertain this? After all, I believe that the gov't and the banks caused this mess. How so you ask? The gov't wanted everyone to be able to realize the American Dream of owning a home. During the 90's the Clinton administartion pressured banks to relax lending standards through the Community Reinvestment Act or whatever it was. The banks followed along or else. Then it is simple economics 101 from there. More people can get loans equals more demand. More demand results in increasing prices (home values going up, home prices going up). We all saw that in the early 2000's. The relaxed lending standards resulted in mortgages resting on a faulty foundation (people bought houses they couldn't afford when the ARM adjusted). Bottom line houses had artificially inflated values and now we see millions of people with homes that they are upside down in and can't refinance because the LTV is negative. In my humble opinion the professionals (banks and gov't) didn't see this coming.....how the heck were we to. If you could take the 828 billion and divide that amongst everyone who pays taxes (200 mil) in the country each person would get a check for 4140.00 plus their 2007 tax refund, cut payroll taxes, reduce corporate taxes or enact the Fair Tax and we would see an economic stimulus. Thanks for reading.
  • Refi for the Self Employed
    My husband & I are both Realtors. We have exhausted all of our savings trying to survive this market. We are both over 50 and jobs are not easy to come by. We have tried to refi but have been unsuccessful because we are self employed and our reserves are too low and we (so far) have paid everything on time. Nothing is late YET but lates are coming. If we had a new program to reduce our payments to try and make it until one of us get a steady paycheck it would be wonderful. It amazes me that the lenders will help those who have poor credit and payment history, and those of us who are doing all we can to stay current and credit worthy get absolutley nothing. It seems they want to make us fail. WHAT's WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE??????
  • Refi
    What about rental properties? Does this program only help people that are owner occupied?
  • interest rate
    the program sounds great and like something that I would be interested in but i don't see anything about what kind of interest rate would be given?
  • I don't understand
    I work in an outreach office. I have tried to help people save their homes. One gentleman got laid off for two months. He wanted to make his one house payment in two payments. When he called the mortgage company they told him that he could do that if he were 3 months behind. Please explain why mortgage companies are encouraging folks to become so far behind in payments before being flexible in simple one month payment lapses?
  • Re-Fi
    I think it is a great idea for people like me. I was laid -off from 1994 to 1998 four differnt times. While my credit was hurt, I never missed one house payment. Yet, due to lower credit rating, I had to pay higher refinance. I would like to lower my rate and a lower house payment would not be a bad risk since I have not missed a note at the higher rate !
  • Cash outs?
    Fine, drop the standards if you must...but you'd better make sure that there are NO "cash-outs" allowed in the process that raise the amount owed over what was previously owed so that people can get deeper in debt in exchange for some quick "play money". Although it's certainly possible, in NONE of the cases I've ever seen has someone refinancing to get extra cash helped them long-term; on the contrary, it's a way for brokers to take advantage of people who habitually make stupid decisions and end up bankrupt anyway!
  • in response to "my take on this"
    "1) too many people own houses"
    too many people do not own houses, there is nothing wrong at all with every person being able to own their own home, it is more than likely the best thing you could ever purchase.

    2) not everyone deserves a house(*deserves means 'can afford')"

    this I will partially agree with, those that bought homes that were over their budget, deserve whatever they get, as long as they had some type of education in buying a home, it is far too often that some Realtors and lenders will pout someone in a home they know breaks the 20/28/40 rule

    this just about happened to a friend the end of December, and to top that, it was a FHA nothing down loan, there is the real problem, lenders and Realtors putting low income people into homes that far exceed the 20/28/40 rules
  • refinancing
    This sounds great! Fayette county put a tax lien on my house for not paying a TAX that I was not responsible for. Well, I proved it. But too late, it's already on my credit report. I went from a 780, to a 640 credit score. They RUINED my credit. Honest tax paying citizens getting screwed by the tax collectors. I hope this loan program actually happens.

    I love when some lenders say," I never heard of that program." What lenders support this? I'll believe it when I have a 4.5% rate. Thx
  • securitization
    now lets see if the bankers leverage these loans thirty times over...
  • to Stn Mtn guy
    Man that stinks. No family nearby? Are there no apts nearby that can be had for a reasonable amt? I know on the west side you can find a decent sized place for < $1000 / month.

    Good luck. Again, you are one of those few that is actually in a tough spot. Just don't like media making it sound like 50% of the population is having the same problem.
  • housing
    I lived in my house near Stone Mountain Ga 15 years, but it had been refinanced by my relative that owned it--we lost the house and Yeah, I am homeless because I cannot afford the huge amount that all landlords want for their houses. I had to relegate to putting my things in a 300 a month storage and live in my friends back room. Plus I am 59 years old and have raised three children on my own. But there is no help available for me.
  • My take on this
    I agree with Clark that this appears to be the type of thing that contributed to this mess. Bottom line...
    1) too many people own houses
    2) not everyone deserves a house (*deserves means 'can afford')

    So I'm in favor of letting the market correct for this and stop with the sob stories. The media treats people who are losing their homes as though they were going to be homeless and out on the street. That's ridiculous. I have been renting for the past 6 years so if you don't feel sorry for me, don't feel too sorry for them.

    There are a few who are in dire straights and I'm concerned for them, but let's not pretend like they are a majority.
  • refi plus probrm
    I didn't see anything the Bloomberg announcement on Refi plus (Feb 5th) indicating that self employed individuals would be helped out much.. the 'reduced doc" requirements quoted are 1 pay stub (vs. 2 currently)...
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