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Jan 23, 2009 -- Idaho man allegedly involved in new Ponzi scheme

RIP-OFF ALERT: An Idaho man named Darren Palmer is under investigation for running an alleged $100 million Ponzi scheme. He's no Bernie Madoff -- recall that man's recent $50 billion scheme -- but Palmer still took in some real money.

Palmer was promising a 25%-40% return on people's money every year. It is impossible for anybody to ever deliver this kind of money in a legitimate non-criminal activity.

Quarterly dividends were being paid to early investors with money taken in from later investors. Suddenly, the dividends stopped coming. That's what happens in a Ponzi scheme because you mathematically run out of people to fund it.

This is just another in a long line of cases where people trusted an associate, a friend or a friend of a friend and suspended normal disbelief when told about the returns they could earn.

As one duped investor said of Palmer, "He just seemed so legit. He grew up in the area."

Being born in the same zip code, or going to the same house of worship or country club does not make you legit. This is known as affinity fraud.

With affinity fraud, we let our guard down with someone who is like us. However, we wouldn't trust a stranger with the same claim.

So be careful out there, and remember, just because somebody is familiar to you, it does not mean what they're offering is good.

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  • Pete SS/Ponzi
    I work for the postal service & pay Social Security just like everyone else.I get tired of hearing government this or that with little actual fact backing it. My retirement is a mix of my funds & a small match the same as I had prior to working for the PO. I put my funds in the higher growth and lost half of my retirement like most people. I would rather have a government system than a ripoff or capitalism type retirement.Hoping you didn't get ripped off as many did & will continue to.
  • SS / PONZI SCHEME
    Its not a ponzi, but it is a scam. The difference is that social security is backed by the ability of the Feds to print more money! Thankfully, state and local governments can't print money 'as needed' although government at all levels can opt out of paying into social security for their employees and instead invest in plans that do show a return...of course as private citizens we aren't given this option.
  • Social security earns more than compound interest
    Most people now get back much more than they paid into Social Security.
    Afraid I have to agree with bob on all the eggs in one basket, being all in with one broker is no smarter or more sophisticated than having all your fortune in one bank.
  • eggs
    jak, why would your relative put all his or her eggs in one basket? sounds like greed or stupidity to me.
  • ponzi
    I really cant feel bad for these people that get caught up in these schemes. what ever happened to common sense. seems to me if your investing you should be investigating i work way to hard for my money to have it taken away like that..
  • I have a relative who lost life savings with Madoff
    I have a relative who lost life savings with Madoff. Madoff should be in jail. I also think we need more laws to protect people. How could the former president of NASDAQ be this corrupt and get away with it for 50 years without the SEC catching him. I think the Madoff people deserve a bailout since the SEC was asleep at the job. I don't think the CAR companies or the banks deserve bailouts because they were just stupid and made bad investments.
    Social security is not really a ponzi scheme. Ponzi schemes reach an end where they can't get any new money and they go belly up. Social Security simply needs to be adjusted so you need to be older to collect payouts to make it viable. We do need to cut our spending though and shrink the national debt to preserve not only social security, but more importantly the value of the dollar. Because if we start printing money to cover things like social security, the dollar will lose its value.
  • social security
    The money you have been paying for the last forty years has been paid to the current retirees and when you retire you will be paid by current workers. That is a Ponzi scheme. There is no compound interest because the money is not invested it is paid out. You have been duped. Except this scheme is legal.
  • Social Security
    I am not collecting Social Security yet but when I do it will be funded mostly by the 40 years I have been paying into the system . Think about the fact that that the deductions over a 40 year span has been earning compounded interest the whole time. Social Security is NOT a Ponzi scheme!
  • Give me your money
    Give me your money I will give you some paper.
  • question
    Does anyone realize that the biggest Ponzi scheme is Social Security?! Think about it the ones that are using it are being paid by the people not using it!
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