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Oct 08, 2008 -- Clark details his investment portfolio

Clark recently provoked heated listener response when he revealed his portfolio was down 3.8% for the year. Some thought he was lying through his teeth, while others thought he was lying about how his portfolio was invested.

Well, you wanted clarification, you got it.

The 3.8% figure was only through Aug. 31. Today, Clark pulled up his account again and saw…drum roll, please…that he was down 10.06% through October 8. Do you feel better now?

Many of you have asked for Clark to again detail his investments. Because of his age and income level, Clark has 37.5% in tax-free municipal bonds and bond funds. The other 62.5% of his money is divided out among big company stocks, small companies and international markets (Europe, Japan, Australia and New Zealand). The biggest hit he took over the year has been in his international holdings.

But consider this: If the average 401(k) is down 20%, why is Clark only down 10%? In a word, dollar cost averaging. Each month like clockwork, he buys more shares at a lower price. When the market recovers, his gains won't keep pace. But he reduces his risk by putting money in over time -- instead of all at one time.

Let's take this opportunity to get a little market perspective. Syndicated financial columnist Kathleen Pender reports that there have been 18 bear markets (defined as a 20% drop) since the modern market era started some 80 years ago. The average bear market decline has been 36% -- which is exactly where we're at right now.

Since the Great Depression, the market has fallen by 50% or more in 4 individual instances. Remember the last time that happened? It was in 2000-2002! That was just 6 years ago. So it's good to keep perspective. Clark believes we are much closer to the bottom than we might realize. You know you're bottoming out when everybody is afraid.


Unfortunately, Clark won't be able to answer any questions submitted via commenting. If you have a question, please try posting it to our message boards.

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What others are saying

  • homeowner bailout
    I think all of the government bailouts have been short-sighted at best, but with regards to the homeowner bailout, what about lawsuits from homeowners who have already lost their home in this market? How is the cutoff point decided?
    My experience has been that those who are looking for someone else to cover for them get very emphatic about their "rights" when they feel someone else got a hand out and they didn't. If a home owner lost his home last month, for example, so it's no longer his to bail out, might he not sue the government for the loss caused by the government's failure to act in a timely fashion, "resulting" in his loss of a home?
  • Bail out
    Everyone should read the book "Creature from Jekyll Island" by Edward Griffin about the Federal Reserve. It was written in 1996, but is following everything he predicted. It is very scary to think that things could get as bad as he says it can.
  • Money, Money, Where Did You Go????
    While everyone is running around like Chicken Little, please remember that no matter with all this stock and bonds, money is what is NOT WORTH ANYTHING!! LET ME REPEAT.....YOUR AMERICAN DOLLARES IS Z I L C H. So all of you who believe this is bad, wait until you are growing your own grapes and potatoes in third world America - which, if you have been real smart up to now, will figure out that America is now a classified commodity - third world, but still buyable. Which country do YOU think has the best chance of acquiring America?
    In addition, please remember that at no time - NEVER - has the country ever lost its currency value completely, until now; although you may believe differently, think one word - credit. That is what the Great Depression had on its side - lack of that word in the economic structure of the everyday man in America. People still dealt with REAL CASH for negotiations, stocks, etc. The only way to return to a normal life, for all countries that have dealt with a credit mentality, is to do so simply - remember, large problems don't demand complicated remedies; to do so, only complicates the large problem - as in "bail out". The credit economies of the world need to reestablish a currency based on something else, other than gold buillion. America only has 8 thousand tons; this is a small amount compared to some other countries. In the meeting of these countries, perhaps the new currency can be backed by another of the earth's precieous metals. Who out there would like to take a guess as to what that would be? Also, money is only a fabrication of society - it became important because we gave it importance - paper, ore, diamonds, gold - is a material good, not something that is really important in the simple equation of living each day. When we started attaching monetary value to everything, we set out on a course of destroying really simple, yet more profound and much more satisfying interchanges of helping each other in living every day - we did not work hard to produce to live, we began to work for money. I hope this makes sense to you - perhaps in a large sense it is the simplest answer to what has become a global problem. Thank you for allowing me to speak out.
  • peak into Clark's portfolio
    Thanks for the peak. In early October my portfolio was down about 7.5% ( I think; it changes every time I check) and my strategy is roughly a 60-40 split between a balanced fund and Credit Union CDs. The insured CDs are earning 4.2% to 5% but may not pull in as much when the mature, so I'll have some decisions to make. The balanced fund of course has about 35% bonds--so some would say I'm overly conservative. No matter, I sleep okay with this mix. Murly
  • Buy LOW, sell high
    Look at it this way...stocks are on sale! If you in it for the long term or if you like certain companies, buy low then sell high down the road after obtaining satisfying returns.
  • Tax Free Municipal Bonds
    Got my statement today. Down $15,000. Hummm, am I in the wrong Munis??
  • Portfolio is Up...
    There's no reason to lose money in this market. VectorVest had a Confirmed Down call on 6/11/2008 so I bought ultra short ETF's on 6/12/2008 and my portfolio is up huge. You don't have to play the market only to the upside. You can make money when the market goes down too. I wouldn't follow anyone's advice if they were losing money in this market. It just means they don't know enough. Go Google "ultra short ETF" to find out what you're missing. Yes, you can use short and ultra short ETF's in a retirement account. Heck, there are even inverse and double inverse mutual funds out there (check Rydex).
  • investments
    Very WELL done Clark !!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Other investments?
    But Clark, don't you also have real estate and small business investments, so that they would effectively be like dividend paying stocks or annuities? They would effect you portfolio mix, wouldn't they?
  • Clark's Portfoilo
    Great performance compared to the market. What's the mix in? What % of the portfolio is in actual stocks, ETFs and mutual funds?
    thanks
    Steve
  • Dollar Cost Averaging
    Dollar Cost Averaging only benefits over the long term so DCA would not be the reason for the year being down only 10%. I have heard Clark say he invests in S&P 500 funds. If that is the case that portion of the investment will mirror the S&P 500 decrease.
  • 401K
    The Company I work for give us $1.00 on a $1.00 So I look at it like this, the money that was loss was their $1.00
  • Looks like 80%
    Let's see - my 401 and Vgrd funds are down a cum 2.2%. Took almost everything to GIC, MMkt last March. Would'nt have lost a cent but left a tiny fraction in Intn'l. Folks should hopefully learn from all of this activity: PAY Attention! ACT depending on your risk level! If you really don't know what you are doing GET expert advice (pay as you go CFP). Buying CD's while we face hyperinflation is the wrong way - it's like selling all the way down!! Gold? sure - if you can put it in your pocket - it's still paper pretty much is'nt it?!!
    Will I stay out longer> Most likely. Will I start 10%ing my way back in - most decidedly.
  • Portfolio Return
    I see no reason for dollar cost averaging, in a presumably well established portfolio, to provide that degree of outperformance over that short a time period. The most likely expanations would be that Clark's portfolio differs from the average 401-k asset allocation, or his specific funds have outperformed those of the averages.
  • STOCK SLAUGHTER
    ...LOOK, MOST PEOPLE ARE DOWN 40%....BONDS INCLUDED, MAYBE 20%.....I am down $700,000......we have to climb 40% to break even to where we were OCT 2007...not all people have the benefit of dollar cost averaging, Clark...you refuse to admit that......if we all live that long, or most will have to retire at 125, I am already retired many years early....and do not need any stock portfolio...
  • my 401K is down only 2.5%
    ... but then I moved it all out of stocks and into bond funds after the crash in 2000, and left it there. Good for me.
  • Clark's investment portfolio
    Thank you Clark for sharing your portfolio breakdown and for reminding us of dollar cost averaging and how to take advantage of the down market. I for one needed this encouragement and reminder to stay put. Vicki Scheidle, Hillsboro, Missouri
  • Governemtn deserves money?????
    "Assume 401k is additional tax our government deserves for letting us have good life style in America compared to the majority of the rest of the world."

    We have the style of living in this country because we have not tried socialism, a path we seem to be going down. Our "poor" people have cell phones and cable TV. This has not happened because we need to spread Joe the plumber's wealth around it is because the governement has gotten out of the way and allowed the American spirit to prevail.

    Who do you think will do better things with your money, you or the government
  • investment
    Clark, you should take another look at your portfolio! I think you are down more than 10.6%.
  • Clark's Investment Portfolio
    I still find 10% down hard to believe but that's great. But even so, I would like to know how Clark's asset classes have done individually in the last year. My bonds are down, as well as my stocks, both internationally and U.S. I have heard that tax-free investments have done ok although I don't know what the percentage is. I expect that the more than one-third in tax-free investments have really helped Clark's overall portfolio. Thanks for sharing Clark.
  • Precious metals
    Someone asked about investing in gold and silver. I think both are going to be in much abundance soon and the price will continue to drop. There's even home parties now to buy gold and silver jewelry which will flood onto the market. I suggest rarer metals such as palladium and platinum or companies that mine them such as SWC and PAL.
  • Clark's Investment Details
    Clifford Martin, stop your whining – Clark’s detailed personal portfolio is none of anyone’s business. Accept the fact that some people do better in the markets and have better advisers than others, IMHO.
  • Clark's portfolio
    You really didn't give us details of your portfolio, only the asset allocation. Can you be more specific?
  • where's my money?
    good for you clark; I have mine in real estate that is debt free, bringing in nice rental incomes; real gold and silver, purchased many years ago. we are now looking in South American for real estate investments and dual citizenship.
  • Clark's Comment about Market Bottom
    Didn't we hear this before from you Clark when Dow went down to 11750 early this year and then next day it went up 400 points after some Federal Reserve action. Market continued to go down for almost 2 years after 911. The truth is 'NOBODY KNOWS REAGRDLESS OF HOW SMART HE/SHE IS'. Stock market is nothing but Gambling except you don't get fun like in Casinos. I have some IRAs (Target 2020 Fund) bought in 2000 is worth 20% lower than buying price. What we need is option in 401k to invest in CDS for nervous investors who does not have G-R-E-E-D like Corporate America (expensive spa, party with our tax money) has.

    My opinion- Until we have CDs, (10, 20, yr CDs have always been over 5%)guaranteed bonds in 401k, save your own retirement separately. Assume 401k is additional tax our government deserves for letting us have good life style in America compared to the majority of the rest of the world. Thanks
  • Clark's Investment Details
    When someone says they are going to give the details of their portfolio I expect details, like the list of specific stocks, bonds, and mutual funds that make up the portfolio. Giving percentages of which sector or class of investment is not giving details, IMHO.
  • Personal Rate of Return 2
    Here's a better link:
    http://allfinancialmatters.com/2006/04/28/how-to-calculate-your-personal-rate-of-return/
  • Personal Rate of Return
    Clark needs to educate himself and his staff about calculating his Personal or Internal Rate of Return. This calculation adjusts returns relative to time so his older investments that dropped more will contribute more to the calculation. Here is a link that explain it better:
    http://news.morningstar.com/classroom2/printlesson.asp?docId=3228&CN=COM
  • don't be mad at clark
    While I am not happy with the -52% in my 401k. I accept the the market is volatile (more at times than others). I continue to invest and beleive that capatalism is the best system yet devised. I refuse to let the bad actors in the banking/investing industry to frighten me. This will pass... and if capatilism and democracy are doomed, well, then i guess it doesn't matter!
  • our new nation
    USSA- United Socialistic States of America
  • stock market
    thanking you for educationing the us on the history of the stock market. The ups and down etc. But do you think it is a way for the "few in power" to collapse the world financal world so they can step in and "save us" with a world bank, thus controlling the whole world? (i am not a nut job-just wondering). Love your show.
  • Why are people mad at Clarke?
    So Clarke is down only 10.00%. Shouldn't we be happy for him? Grow up people.
  • Clark's portfolio
    I still don't believe him. First of all, what 401K doesn't also employ dollar cost averaging? That he dollar cost averages doesn't differentiate him from 401K participants with well diversified investments. Did he factor in his almost total loss in Wachovia stock? My international emerging markets fund is down about 40% in the past 3 months and his contains Japanese stocks which have gotten hammered recently, in fact their market suffered a 9.8% hit on Tuesday alone. Since Clark isn't an individual stock picker its unlikely he has most of his "big company" stock in Altria, so I'd have to imagine these have suffered greatly as well. Small cap stocks certainly haven't escaped the carnage, so my gues is Clark just isn't doing the calculations correctly especially since he invests each month which makes the calculation very difficult.

    Mark

    p.s. I'd like to see what Clark says about gold in a few months
  • Nothing to Fear but Fear itsself
    There are still people from the depression era who refuse to put their money in a bank. Fear is driving a lot of this.
  • Investing in real money
    Perhaps Clark can tell us of a good buy on bullion.
  • The paper markets are dead
    The financial house of cards bankers and politicians built since WWII is collapsing. We will have a new currency next year and possibly wholesale nationalization of major industries. The notion of "free markets" is dead, forget about it. Convert your paper investments to cash now and buy real, tangible things (bullion, real estate, businesses) as these will retain their value better and escape the arbitrary revaluations and taxes our increasingly desperate governments will force on us.
  • S&P Is negative
    When financial planners and Clark say the market has never lost over any 10 year period they mean the ENTIRE New York Stock Exchange not just the S&P 500. The S&P 500 represents only about 10% of the NYSE. So financial planners are stll correct.
  • S&P 500 is negative over the past 10 years
    I just looked at the 10 year chart of the S&P 500. I have always heard financial planners say that all 10 year periods of the stock market's history are positive. But the last 10 years are negative, even if you don't adjust for inflation! Will this new development change the advice financial planners give about investing in the stock market?
  • Thanks Clark
    Thanks for the clarification and insight Clark.
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