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Oct 22, 2007 -- Variable annuities stink!

Clark's strategies for investing infuriate some people. They take issue particularly with the way he steers folks away from variable annuities and toward index funds or tax-managed accounts. But he's not alone in slamming variable annuities. The Wall Street Journal recently presented its reasons why they stink. But first, Clark wants to give some examples of index funds and tax-managed accounts so people know what he's talking about. Index funds can be things like the 500 Index or the Total Stock Market Index. With the former, you own one investment that owns small slices of the top 500 companies in America. With the latter, you own pieces of 3,000 companies in the United States. Tax-managed accounts, meanwhile, are for big spenders who have $10,000 or more sitting around. They offer low management costs and the management company is duty bound to balance your losses and gains so you don't have a huge tax bill at the end of the year. Both index funds and tax-managed accounts should be bought from no-commission, low-cost mutual fund companies like Fidelity Investments, Vanguard or T. Rowe Price.

There really are some stark differences when you compare and contrast Clark's choices of index funds/tax-managed accounts versus variable annuities. The latter has gigantic expenses each year, as much as 15 times greater than Clark's choices. The maximum tax you can pay on index funds/tax-managed accounts is only 15 percent, while it's 35 percent on a variable annuity. Variable annuities are also designed to be spent only when you're 59 1/2 or older. If you want your money earlier, you'll pay a 10 percent penalty. Clark's choices have no such age restrictions or penalties. Finally, you must pay a massive fee called a yearly surrender charge if you want out of a variable annuity before you've owned it for 10 years. Tax-managed accounts, meanwhile, may assess a one-percent fee if you leave with the first five years. The verdict is clear: Variable annuities stink!

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  • variable annuities
    Clark doesn't like VA's because he competes against them and your broker. If you used them, why would you need Clark.

    I can tell you numerous cases of where VA's have proven to be a valuable investment choice. Everything from living benefit riders, to annuitization, to death benefit guarantees.
  • Damon Ladd-Thomas is an investment broker
    The guy saying Clark is a "cheap, vacation-special finder" Is an investment broker. I just looked him up at www.brokercheck.finra.org Of course someone trying to sell annuities is going to try to discredit someone who doesn't want you to buy one.

    Damon - If you want people to take your advice, try facts instead of what amounts to name calling.
  • VA
    Prior to mid 2008, variable annuities did stink relative to stock funds. What Clark and nearly all experts didn't foresee was the perfect storm of economic defaults that led to our current mess. Clark's posting of 2007 doesn't hold water any more. Even Clark is now talking about the value of adding CDs to portfolios. The problem? For most folks seeking the shelter of a CD or the security of an annuity..it is too late. I'm 59 and I've lost a load in the market. I'm just hoping some of the market comes back before I need the money. It is too late to cash in now.
  • Licensed!
    Licensed?
    Always make sure that the advice you are getting, about any investment and retirement option, is from a licensed advisor and not a Consumer Debt Advocate like Dave Ramsey or a Cheap, Vacation-Special finder, like Clark Howard. Investment advice should always be given with each person's individual situation in mind. Insurance Products are highly regulated, just like their agents. Clark Howard is not.
  • GUARANTEED VARIABLE ANNUITIES
    I am 62, working, have lost consider amount of money in managed and un managed mutual funds. I am talking to a new CFP and he wants me to put about 80 grand in a Transamerica Guar.Var. Annuity that pays a guaranteed 5% and cost me 3% in management fees. What do you think?
  • VA Question
    Why does Clark not explain the living benefits on his show and explain why they are bad or good? It seems like he does not understand them except that they can have adverse tax consequences and they are more expensive than index funds. Are the living benefits not appropriate for anyone?
  • Variable Annuites
    All this variable annuity bashing seems to have stopped now that we are in 2009. People that bought variable annuites with living benefits feel a lot better than those who have their money at vangaurd in an index fund. Why is it that we don't hear anything about how horrible they are now. Clark is not a financial advisor, he's an entertainer. Variable annuites provide some certainty in an uncertain world, however they are not for everyone. In a lot of cases they make sense and in a lot of cases they don't. However to assume that low cost index funds will provide you with financial security is a farse. Maybe the cookie cutter approach to advice that Clark provides is stinky.
  • life annuities
    I HAVE A LIFE 10 YEAR CERTAIN ANNUITY. YOU MENTIONED THAT LIFE ANNUITIES ARE OK. PLEASE .I NEED SOME INFO.
  • variable annuities
    how do i get out of my varible annuitues
  • trolls
    it's great to see that the annuity salesmen take the time to troll the comments and spread their fud about Clark.

    Here is a nice bit of life advice that will always serve you well...

    Always consider the source. Consider the advice in the context of what someone had to gain from you. Clark could say that VA's are awesome or that they are crap and he benefits the same amount. The "financial advisor" (aka salesperson) has a vested interest in getting you to purchase those investments with the highest commission (not the highest yield).

    I know sales... don't fall for it.
  • Annuities
    Clark is a travel agent that shouldn't be talking about investments! Period.

    He has cost a lot of people a lot of money telling them to invest into "index accounts".

    I personally favor EIA's over VA's but the guaranteed income VA's produce can not be matched by any "index fund".

    Clark, your a fool! People are starting to learn the truth about you and that is you are a washed-up hack!

    QUIT GIVING INVESTMENT ADVICE!

    If a person gave the same advice you did to an individual without any proper licenses it would be criminal but somehow you are able to give it to thousands?
  • Annuities
    Now many people are realizing the value of VA's. It's looks as though Clark's wonderful "Index "suggestions are tanking like the rest of the market. The people invested in VA's have the peace of mind knowing they will get a generous income stream regardless of the performance.
    Shame on Clark for steering people away from VA's All it is is mutual fund insurance.
  • Mutual Funds
    Hey Clark, when I am investing my money, what matters most? How low the expenses are, or how much I get to keep? I challange you to run an illustration on the Vangaurd 500 Index Fund with its LOW expenses up against the Black Rock Global Allocation Fund with an expense of 1.96% per year over the past 10 years. If you had invested 100k in each fund, your Vangaurd fund would have had over 100k LESS than the BlackRock Fund. You take low expenses, I will take performance with lower risk EVERY TIME.
  • Variable Annuities
    You need to do some more research on VAs. Planners are being sued b/c they did not advise clients of the guarantees in the Variable Annuities. I know as a radio host you are immune to such law suits but if you are truly an advocate for your listeners, you should become familiar with the living benefit riders.
  • Variable Annuity
    In 1993 our broker put us in a variable annuity. he left the bank where he was located went with Merril Lynch and then to another company but we did not go along. My husband has since passed away and I have had on good advice been getting out of the annuity a little each year. This does not affect my death benefit. Is there anyway I can get my money out with out a huge penalty or tax problem?
  • VA's
    Like Rick stated, there are plenty of VA's with little or no surrender charges. Clark should be held responsible for his advice when people lose money because they didn’t purchase a VA with a guaranteed for life income/withdraw benefit (because he steered them wrong). Sounds like he isn’t doing his homework on what new generation VA's have to offer. Ohh well. For those of us that know the truth, life will be better with guaranteed cash flow and full participation in the market.
  • VAs
    There are plenty of VAs with no surrender charges or only 3 or 4 year holding periods. Some have guaranteed income benefits for life and gives you access to the pricipal or leaves it to your beneficiaries. The fees are worth it for the peace of mind of not outlivng your money. Clark's S&P index funds has only averaged 3% over the last 10 years. I'd rather pay the fees for a 6 or 7% income guarantee.
  • Variable Annuties RIP-OFF!
    The advice of staying away from a salesman that approaches you applies 100% to Variable Annuities and often times for any kind of annuity. The salesmen get ridiculously large commissions for doing practically nothing. Some of them call themselves "Financial Advisors" or "Financial Planners" which is deceptive. They're NOT. They are just insurance salesmen. I know of one agent that gets paid 3% for every dollar one of his "clients" contributes to a plan with his Insurance company. He also gets 10%, YES TEN PERCENT, for any amount transferred from an outside account to a new account with his company. He also gets a 7% commission from a 2nd company for which he is an agent for every dollar contributed to a plan by a client.
    Account transfers are a primary method the insurance companies use for screwing clients over. When a client signs up for an annuity, the insurance company itself imposes penalties for withdrawing early. Many annuity salesmen convince new clients to switch to a new company. However, those clients had to pay an early withdrawal penalty for leaving the first annuity of which the annuity salesman does not notify them due to his HUGE commission on any balance transfer.
    These annuities have POOR performance. One variable interest annuity that one company sells that is "pegged" to the S&P 500 Index. From 2003 to 2007 that annuity averaged around 7.5% each year. The S&P 500 averaged 12.83% over that 5-year term. So an innocent purchaser of the annuity paid over 5% in fees so that his agent and the insurance company can pocket a ton of money for screwing him over. Since the agents are only salesmen, once they sign someone up for an annuity, they will rarely ever see that client again. The agents still pocket a percentage of the monthly payment that the client makes for the rest of the annuity. Oftentimes 3% to 7%. In addition, since the commission is based on the money put into an account and not the performance, the agent does care at all about how his clients are doing. He only cares to make sure the payments are made every month.
    Even more disturbing is that some of the insurance companies have paid off teacher unions so that only a few companies are eligible companies for 403b plan investing for teachers. To learn about the disgusting innerwrorkings of variable annuities, check out www.403bwise.com. Also, since annuities target teachers, the agents usually only have to work at most 4 – 5 months a year and can still make $50k to $100k or more. When teachers are off for the summer, they are not making payments. So the agents are basically off too for the summer. The agent works about 2 months at the beginning of each semester. Usually towards the end of the semester, few teachers decide to sign up with an annuity since they already have one, or have decided not to invest in a 403b plan at that time.
  • Varible annuites stink!
    Hey Clark, what guaranteed lifetime benefits do your "no-load" index funds have? Do you ever mention to your listeners about the guaranteed benefits of VA's offered today (e.g. death benefits, guaranteed accumulation, withdrawl, and minimum income benefits)???
  • Variable Annuities
    Hi Clark,
    I'm 60 and I just bought a variable annuity and I get garanteed 7% return even if the market goes down and don't take withdrawals. It protects the downside and it grows either at 7% or from mutual finds its in whichever is greater.
    I know I pay more expenses for this safety but its work it for me. It also defers taxes if I don't make any withdrawals. I plan to live on the income from the annuity later but I will NOT annuitize the annuity.
  • Investments
    I am in my late 70's and feel that my money should be some place safe, since I just lost $15K in the market. Where should I put my last $200K?
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